Digger asks writer, broadcaster
and professional poker player Victoria Coren a few
questions.

Victoria Coren
Victoria Coren is a
writer, broadcaster and professional poker player. She may be familiar
to you as a newspaper columnist for The Observer and The Guardian
or via her appearances on 'wordy' TV shows such as Balderdash and
Piffle and Only Connect or radio shows like Heresy. Like her
father Alan before her, she has a love of words and of fun and a
quick and ample wit.
Victoria
used to write for The Erotic Review, and with her close friend
Charlie Skelton, wrote the book Once More With Feeling about their
attempt to make the ultimate porn movie.
In
the world of poker, Victoria, or Vicky as she is known in those
circles, is a well-respected and successful player, having won
several key tournaments and titles. Amusingly, much of her poker
play has been at London's Victoria Casino where she is able to
play with chips with the initials 'VC' on them.
Victoria
very kindly agreed to take time from her hectic schedule to answer
a few questions for us at www.retrosellers.com

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Digger:
I'm a bit of an old git when it comes to the use of language. I
email webmasters when I find errors on their websites, I wince when
someone uses the hackneyed phrases "emotional
roller-coaster" and "awesome" or when they regularly
mispronounce 'controversy' or 'decade' on the news. Are you an old
git like me when it comes to abuse of English and do you think that
our use of our language is declining and, if so, what is this
attributable to? (To what is this attributable?!)
Victoria: Well I can't agree to being an "old git"
about this, because I don't want to give linguistic precision any
more of a bad name than it already has! There's no reason why young
people shouldn't feel a love for the English language, and a desire
to see it used in all its perfect finery - I'm sure many of them do.
But yes, certainly, I wince at misplaced apostrophes and clichés in
newspaper columns and "Ceaser salads" on restaurant menus.
I must say, though, I didn't know it was possible to mispronounce
"decade". I can't tell you what the reason is; I don't
think it's a new problem. I'm sure if you went back a few centuries,
literacy and spelling would be a lot worse than they are now! We
will never reach 100% perfect literacy, but that's no reason to stop
trying.
Digger: Your
skills/interest with language AND with poker are unusual, are they
not? Normally people are either mathematical or linguistic, but
seldom both. Why do you think you are an exception?
Victoria: I'm
not sure that I am an exception. When Balderdash & Piffle was
running, lots of people in the casino told me they were watching it.
It's a bit of an old chestnut, this maths/language divide. Sometimes
I think it's invented by "artistic" people, because they
think it's a bit nerdy to be interested in maths or science. It
isn't at all. It's cool to be interested in anything.
Digger: I
am not good at poker but I have won five times out of six when
visiting casinos to play roulette. I don't exactly have a system,
but I do think that you can place and spread your chips so that your
odds of winning are increased. I also think that because I went
there to enjoy myself and knew how much I was prepared to lose, I
was more relaxed than most of the other players who seemed very
intense. Does this relaxed and realistic approach also relate to
poker?
Victoria: Being
realistic is certainly a key poker skill, along with many others.
And if you're gambling on anything, it's vital to know in advance
how much you are prepared to lose, and stop if you reach it. But I'm
afraid I must tell you that your roulette strategy isn't going to
help you in the long run; spreading the chips out does mean you're
more likely to hit a number, but you're risking more money each time
so it all evens out. The bad news is that, on all table games (as
opposed to poker), the odds are in favour of the house and you
cannot win long-term whatever you do.

Digger: I
have read your advice about poker on your website and, with the
increase in people playing poker online, I wonder if the inability
to read people's faces, tone and body language is a major
disadvantage when playing virtually rather than in reality?
Victoria: Reading
people's body language is a big advantage against nervous new
players, but it doesn't really help at the professional level
because the players are too good to give much away. More important
than reading faces, voices or bodies is reading betting patterns:
working out who bets what, with what kind of hand, at what stage of
the action. You can do this on PokerStars.com just as easily as you
can in a casino.
Digger: You
filmed and directed a porn video and wrote a book about the
experience called Once More, With Feeling. I agree with your premise
that most porn is not very sexy or erotic at all, finding it rather
'bull in a china shop' and risible. What do you think are the key
ingredients to great porn?
Victoria: Well,
if you're a fetishist then the most important ingredient is whatever
your fetish happens to be! In my opinion, it's the build-up that's
usually done badly. If porn directors ever managed to create sexual
tension, spark and chemistry like you see sometimes in Hollywood
movies, the ensuing love scene would have much more crackle. If a
man just walks onto a wonky set and takes his trousers off, that's
not terribly erotic.
Digger:
Your Dad was one of those unique 'comedy people' that Britain seems
to produce in each generation. Rather eccentric, very witty,
talented, innovative, mischievous and good fun. What characteristics
of his do you think you've inherited and how would you describe him
and yourself?
Victoria: Goodness,
that's a very big question. I've inherited his impatience, his fair
skin, his loyalty, his sentimentality, his short fuse, his love of
doughnuts and his instinct always to look for the joke. Answering at
any greater length than that would take a whole book.
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Digger: Who
are your heroes of comedy? And which writers do you most admire? Who
have been the biggest influences on your life?
Victoria: I
love anyone who's ever made me laugh. I especially admire people
like Victoria Wood and Harry Hill, who almost always manage to be
funny without saying anything really nasty about anyone. Then again,
I love Joan Rivers who is horrible about everyone. I think the News
Quiz team - Jeremy Hardy, Mark Steel, Andy Hamilton and Sandi
Toksvig - are all hilarious and brilliant. Stephen Fry is a genius,
and I can't look at Hugh Laurie without laughing - which is
unfortunate, now that he's a serious actor. David Mitchell is the
best of the younger people, he's terrific. Charlie Brooker is
probably the funniest columnist. My best friend Charlie Skelton has
made me laugh more often than anybody else. And the biggest
influence on my life was certainly my father.
Digger: You
run a great highly informational and up-to-date website and maintain
a blog. Do you think it's important to 'embrace' such technologies
and do you get a lot of positive response and useful feedback from
the site?
Victoria: I'm
not really a big embracer of technology. I bought an iPod a few
months ago, but I still don't understand how to listen to music on
it. I have cassette tapes in the car. I have no idea how most
machines work. I'm a bit of a Luddite really; the only thing I
really love about modern technology is internet poker. And
penicillin, I suppose. But it's fun having a website, as long as I
don't have to design it myself.
Digger: You
have fronted a number of TV and radio programmes on words and poker.
Is British broadcasting still sexist these days (many women I have
interviewed say that it is) and do you have to work harder as a
woman in broadcasting (and poker) to be noticed?
Victoria: I
don't work enough in broadcasting to know whether it's sexist or not
- I have worked as much as I wanted to, and I'm grateful for that.
But if clever older women like Selina Scott and Anna Ford say that
the broadcast industry is sexist, then I believe that it is.
Certainly I think the broadcasters fail to appreciate the appeal of
older female presenters, especially in news: they are trustworthy
and reassuring, while still looking fantastic on screen. They are
the people we want to see. I miss Moira Stuart terribly. But I can
answer the question "Is poker sexist?" with more
experience: yes of course it is.
Digger: Who
would be at your ideal dinner party of guests, living or dead, real
or fictional? And why?
Victoria: Oh,
my ideal dinner party would involve a bunch of my old friends from
college. I'm sure that Shakespeare, Jesus and Florence Nightingale
would be very exciting to see around my dinner table, but I don't
know them so I'd be all nervous and wouldn't enjoy it.
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Digger: I
enjoyed 'Balderdash' immensely and am very keen on etymology. What
are some of your favourite words and expressions and why? And which
words or phrases would you ban if you could? Is there a new series
on the way?
Victoria: Looking
at the etymology of almost any English phrase will give it added
weight, meaning and colour. The expression ‘happy as a sandboy’,
for example, refers to 19th century London, when boys sold sand from
barrows in the street, and were reputed to be constantly drunk. I
like the word "ferret" which comes (via Old French) from
the Latin word for a thief: I can just imagine the old Roman who
first looked at a ferret and thought there was something suspicious
about it. ("Furtive" has the same root). ‘Ferreting
out’ refers to the 16th century gamekeepers’ practice of sending
ferrets down rabbit holes to flush out the ingredients of a tasty
pie. I love all that stuff.
I don't think I'm a big one for banning language, but I've tried to
stop using the word "cretin" since learning from
Balderdash & Piffle that it's a corruption of the French ‘Chrétien’
meaning Christian. It was coined in the 18th century, specifically
to encourage people to think more respectfully and kindly about
those with a mental handicap: they too are Christians. I'm hoping
not to use it as a casual slur again.
Digger: Can
you tell us what you have lined-up for 2009?
Victoria: Well,
I'm writing a book which is supposed to be published in September
2009 so I had better hurry up and get that finished. I'll be playing
several events on the European Poker Tour - they are the best live
tournaments in all of poker, and I'll certainly be playing the ones
in Deauville, Monte Carlo, London and Barcelona; I hope a few others
too. Then I hope we'll be making another series of the BBC4 quiz
show Only Connect - I really enjoyed doing that, so I hope the BBC
want another series. And I might do another series of Heresy on
Radio 4; the BBC have offered one, which is very kind, and I loved
the programme but it made me nervous because of the live audience,
so I haven't yet completely decided whether to do it again or not!
Digger:
What makes you laugh, what make you sad, what makes you angry and
what makes you hopeful?
Victoria:
Everything makes me laugh. The passing of time makes me sad. Other
people's aggression makes me angry. And I feel hopeful all the time;
it is my natural state. Of all the things for which I'm grateful,
the biggest is having been born an optimist.
Digger:
What has been your biggest achievement so far and what would you
still like to accomplish?
Victoria: I
suppose winning the London leg of the European Poker Tour in 2006 is
my most obvious achievement. That, or winning the prize for Best
Cake at the Clacton Arts Festival 2005. But any time I manage to
behave nicely when I'm feeling irritable, I consider it my greatest
achievement of all time! There are millions of things I'd like to
accomplish, but the daily struggle is always trying to be a better
person.
Digger: Are
people who are good at quizzes bad at being sociable? My girlfriend
claims this to be true and I tell her to shut up because I'm
watching University Challenge, Eggheads or Only Connect.
Victoria:
Ooh, that's a good question. But I would say the problem lies with
the definition of "being sociable". Who is in the wrong
here? It's possible that there's a certain kind of person who is
good at quizzes and crosswords, loves facts and figures, but feels a
little at sea with smalltalk and topical chitchat at parties. But
hey - that's my kind of guy.
Digger:
What devices, technology or toys could you not do without?
Victoria: I
couldn't do without PokerStars, the online poker website. They are
my sponsors and have made it possible for me to play many more live
tournaments than I otherwise would have done in the past year - for
which I'm grateful, but that aside, the site is a beautiful
innovation. Time was when the only poker I could play involved going
out in the middle of the night, dressed smartly, with my membership
card, ready to commit several hours to playing at whatever stakes
were available. Now I can go online at home, for an hour or two
hours or five hours or however long I've got, and play whatever game
I like, for whatever stakes I choose. In the comfort of my own
living room with a nice cup of tea. I'm hooked on that freedom. I
couldn't go back to how it was.
Digger: Have you ever been lost for words or tongue-tied? They say
actions and pictures speak louder than words but I'm not sure that
these are always appropriate and find words very apposite. What do
you think?
Victoria: Put
me in a cocktail party environment and you'll soon see me
tongue-tied.
Digger: Have you seen the Tony Hawks website where he replies to
youngsters who have mistaken him for the American skateboarder Tony
HAWK? It's very funny. http://tony-hawks.com/skateboarding.php
Victoria: I'm
afraid not. But if you say it's funny, I'll have a look.

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Victoria Coren interview. December 2008.
Many thanks to Victoria and to Vivienne
Clore for their kindness and
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